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Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:13 am
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darwinist
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Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:13 am
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Rob Thorpe wrote:
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darwinist wrote:
1 Works in a browser as customisable web-interface or,
2 Use with apache to make window-based, dhtml-apps
3 Rename/retitle open windows
4 Arbitrary virtual desktop size with easy navigation (default
10000x10000)
5 Free as in freedom, and free as in free-beer (beer not included).
6 All in one html/js file at
http://darwinist.googlepages.com/webwindows.html
7 "Save Page As" to start your own
8 Tested on firefox 1.5 and ie 6
9 Left and right window padding too fat on ie. Very hard. Please help.

Please copy, comment or contribute.

*(With comments, whitespace, and api reference)

Very smart.
I've tried it with Firefox and IE. The only issue I noticed was with
IE:
When you scroll to the bottom of an internal windows with the scroll
wheel then the sidebar continues scrolling when the internal window has
stopped. This is probably and IE issue.

I've tried to avoid browser-checking or browser-specific code, but I
can't find a portable way to handle window scrolling while dragging;
short of making my own scroll regions and scroll bars, which i'd rather
not. Besides, it still wouldn't handle the scroll-wheel. Any ideas?
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Wed Aug 02, 2006 8:22 pm
PostPost subject: Re: Help with html Reply with quote
"William Tasso" <SpamBlocked@tbdata.com> wrote in message
news:op.tdnvookkm9g4qz-wnt@tbdata.com...
Quote:

I want to do it so that the page looks the same and the user doesn't
have to use the back button in the browser.

Sounds like you're inventing a solution for which there is no known problem

You're fond of this line, and in this case, I can see why - it fits
perfectly.

To the OP:

It's still not clear what you are trying to achieve. If you want a contact
form, create one; then create a link to it from your original page or menu.
Et Voila! It couldn't be any simpler.

You could use javascript to avoid requesting a separate page, but I don't
see any mileage in it especially when you consider the downside of using
javascript.

Are we missing something?

Chris
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Wed Aug 02, 2006 8:37 pm
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Well I link back to them
Tuomas Rinta wrote:
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masterjuan wrote:
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http://masterjuan0101.googlepages.com

Umm... your "Six Thinking Hats"-article contains definitions of the
different hacker types which are verbatim copies of Wikipedia's
articles, so shouldn't those carry the GNU Free Documentation License?

For example:
http://masterjuan0101.googlepages.com/sixthinkinghats#DESTINATION
vs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_hat

-- clip: from GNU Free Documentation License --
"2. VERBATIM COPYING
You may copy and distribute the Document in any medium, either
commercially or noncommercially, provided that this License, the
copyright notices, and the license notice saying this License applies to
the Document are reproduced in all copies, and that you add no other
conditions whatsoever to those of this License.
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Andy Dingley
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Wed Aug 02, 2006 8:55 pm
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Hoopster wrote:

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I want to do it so that the page looks the same and the user doesn't
have to use the back button in the browser.

Sounds like the only way to achieve this would indeed be something like
AJAX, or at least a chunk of JavaScript with a slide-in window code,
entered on every page through SSI. That's total overkill and far too
complicated to even begin thinking about.

Just pop the contact form up with basic HTML <a target="new"
href="/contact.htm" >Contact</a> and let the user close it when they're
done. Pop-ups are unpopular hereabouts, but it would leave the user's
precious Back button unsullied. IMHO this popup is non-harmful and
justifiable, if not actually necessary.

This really is a solution looking for a problem.
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Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:08 pm
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- I have a fax number already
- I want to send an e-mail which gets delivered to the fax number

All the services I've seen only go to a fax number you get from the
service
provider.


http://www.altn.com/Products/Default.asp?product_id=RelayFax

sends a fax from your machine. very good it is too.
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CJM
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Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:15 pm
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"Andy Dingley" <dingbat@codesmiths.com> wrote in message
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Hoopster wrote:

I want to do it so that the page looks the same and the user doesn't
have to use the back button in the browser.

Sounds like the only way to achieve this would indeed be something like
AJAX, or at least a chunk of JavaScript with a slide-in window code,
entered on every page through SSI. That's total overkill and far too
complicated to even begin thinking about.


Agreed.

Quote:
Just pop the contact form up with basic HTML <a target="new"
href="/contact.htm" >Contact</a> and let the user close it when they're
done. Pop-ups are unpopular hereabouts, but it would leave the user's
precious Back button unsullied. IMHO this popup is non-harmful and
justifiable, if not actually necessary.


OK, if you *really* dont want to use the back button, but even then you
could simply automatically re-drect to, or provide a link to, the referring
page.

But I maintain that the 'best' solution is keep it simple; the user can
either use the back button or they can shift-click to open the contact form.

CJM
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:14 pm
PostPost subject: Re: Any ideas why my JavaScript will not work in Firefox? Reply with quote
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http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/redesign/searchadvance.php

Maybe look at the errors in the Firefox JavaScript console.

Didn't know that existed - thanks

Turns out problem is document.all is causing it to break when I needed to
use document.getElementById()
- I had both

So now need to add some detection stuff

Thanks
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:17 pm
PostPost subject: Re: Any ideas why my JavaScript will not work in Firefox? Reply with quote
Aaron Whiffin wrote:

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Page in question is:
http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/redesign/searchadvance.php

If you change the country select box a function called changedcountry() is
called using JavaScript. If the country is "United Kingdom" a "UK Region"
select box will appear, if the country is something else, the "UK Region"
select box is hidden.

Also when the page is first loaded changedcountry() is called so that if
the country is not selected (which it shouldn't be) the "UK Region" select
box is hidden.

So when you first load the page you should just get the country region
box, then when this is changed to "United Kingdom" the second box will
appear, and if it is changed away from "United Kingdom" the second box
should disappear again.

It works in Internet Explorer and Opera, and I can see no problems, but if
I run in Firefox (latest version) it does not work.

JavaScript is enabled in Firefox and tested

Any ideas?

Thanks


Dunno, but it works fine in Konqueror.


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Aaron Whiffin
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:21 pm
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http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/redesign/searchadvance.php

Maybe look at the errors in the Firefox JavaScript console.

Didn't know that existed - thanks

Turns out problem is document.all is causing it to break when I needed to
use document.getElementById()
- I had both

Update: Bit more research shows it works if you removethe document.all line
altogether and just reply on etElementById() will do that
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:21 pm
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Dunno, but it works fine in Konqueror.

Should work fine in all now, hopefully

Thx
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:27 pm
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In article <Xns98144C4DE7F87karlkarlcorecom@216.196.97.136>,
Karl Groves <karl@NOSPAMkarlcore.com> wrote:
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adykes@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote in news:earmos$4lq$1@panix5.panix.com:


Can someone recommend a Wiki server that is easy to get running under
apache on a windows box? I've set up apache lots of times but never
played with a Wiki. I want to get one up really quickly.


I'll second Andy's recommendation of MediaWiki.
I looked at about a dozen wikis and decided that was the best choice.
Setting it up was really fast. Learning how to use a wiki, for those who
have never published with one, is the hard part.


Thanks. I'll look at mediawiki. I'm really looking for something
slightly better than an internet-shared whiteboard to be edited by
only a single-digit number of people and for a new page a day, or
something like that.

getting it up quickly while I have other things to do is important. I
could do do more with a Linux box but I'm short of boxes, even for my
windows work. It's not that i don't know what the Right Thing is, but
I'm on a drop-drad schedule where I'm trying to step up from email and
FAX machines.







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Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:21 pm
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"iworkforthem@gmail.com" <iworkforthem@gmail.com> altered the spacetime
fabric by disgorging news:1154600238.072609.239250
@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

Quote:
We are working on a small research project to understand the reason why
people/business have a website? We've compiled a short 10 questions for
that, we hope you could help us with it. It will not take more than 3
mins.

For your effort, we will link it back to you and your website if any.
In fact, that's the first question we ask in our survey, we won't want
you to do anything for us for free.

If you like what you hear so far, click here to take the survey.
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=334772422291

What's going to happen at the end of the survey, we will compile the
results and make a few recommendations based on the survey results and
distribute the report in ebook format under a Creative Commons license
here. This way everyone will benefit from the survey. O... the names
and websites of all the participents who helps us to make our project a
reality will be included as part of the report too.

Call me a cynic (cynic!) but this looks like a harvesting effort to me.

It's no big mystery why people make websites: For business, it falls
under one of three categories or combinations:

To sell things or support sales
To support customers
To create brand awareness

The reasons for the reasons are usually to reduce costs of sales or
support and/or to supplement brand awareness efforts.

Whether these succeed depends on the quality of the site, quality of the
company making the public and/or their customers aware of the site and
the actual efficacity of the site itself.

For example, I have had clients where the sole purpose of their website
was to reduce product support costs: After six months of customer
education/awareness, they were able to reduce full time support staff
from ten people to two.

A good sales site can be used in conjunction with good human sales to
increase sales by any percentage number, depending on the content,
functionality and, more importantly, the effort the human element puts
into educating the customer base about the sales site. It can also be
used when a customer is sitting on the fence, wants more time and the
sales rep can send them there for no pressure additional exposure to the
products or services.

Your survey isn't covering anything new at all; Sorry.

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Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:27 pm
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"proaos" <jobz_a@yahoo.com> altered the spacetime fabric by disgorging
news:1154603632.801070.160630@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

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Do you want a professionallooking website design?

Always a good thing.

Quote:
Then you need to hire a professional website designerthat will work for
your website from start to end.

Yep, let me know if you run into one - Apparantly, you haven't met any,
yet.

Quote:
And will also be availableif you'll need changes or updates to your
site in the future. Try spamvertised_company.

spamvertised_company is the leadingprovider of Internet Offshore
Outsourcing Solutions since 2003 for clientsworldwide in need of
various web related services.

Lotta demand in the market place for 'designers' that can't spell, use
poor grammar, don't use their own domain name in their email addresses
and use spam as a marketing tool, is there ?

Quote:
We offer you qualified ITprofessionals that will work and become one of
your employees overseas via theInternet from our office instantly.

So if one of your "qualified ITprofessionals" spams like you are doing
now _and_ they're "one of my employees", does that mean I can fire them,
sending them to the unemployment line ? (You're fired)

Quote:
These IT professionals are
equipped toprovide you with complete services in Web Design and
Development as well asenhancement and promotion of your existing pay
sites.

Perhaps you should ask one of these professionals how to properly promote
your business instead of spamming ?

Quote:
We strive to be leadersin whatever we do.

I'm not sure that becoming the leaders in spamming is necessarily good
for your business - either for the reputation or the bottom line.

Quote:
We continually seek
out the best strategic partners, thebest employees and the best
customers to be part of the winning team.

So you're looking for a new job, then, are you ?

Quote:
If you want to have a good results visit oursite at

http://www.spamvertised_company/

I would indeed like to "have good results" - which is why I won't be
visiting your website.


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Largest ISP comparison site across Canada.
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:40 pm
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proaos wrote:
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Do you want a professionallooking website design? Then you need to
hire a professional website designerthat will work for your website
from start to end. And will also be availableif you'll need changes or
updates to your site in the future. Try Proadultoutsourcing.

Cant be too good if you need to spam to get customers.
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